Rudy The Prosecutor: Very Creative With Power

We give Loathsome Eliot Spitzer a hard time around here for the bully boy tactics both he and his staff reportedly practiced when he was New York's attorney general, tactics that he apparently kept practicing once elected governor. But it's worth remembering that Spitzer hardly invented the role of the aggressive prosecutor who builds his reputation by going after Wall Street and attacks his opponents with leaks to the press. Credit there probably belongs to Rudolph Giuliani. Yesterday the New York Times ran a healthy reminder of the Giuliani we knew before he became New York's mayor, and long before he became September 11ths mayor.

"Mr. Giuliani, who was 38 when he became United States attorney in 1983, threatened his targets with long prison sentences, and he infuriated judges with leaks of grand jury testimony to the press," Michael Powell writes. "His agents handcuffed Wall Street arbitrageurs before prosecutors investigated them. Apology was weakness; skeptics were 'jerks.'

Powell mentions the case of Princeton/Newport Partners, which was shut down in a raid by 50 armed marshals. They were charged with racketeering, a crime created to prosecute organized crime but which later became a regular feature of financial prosecutions thanks to the zealous creativity of prosecutors, including Giuliani, who realized that just because financiers weren't mobsters didn't mean they couldn't be treated as if they were. Although a federal appeals court later overturned the convictions, Princeton/Newport was ruined.

The prosecution of Michael Milken and the destruction of Drexel Lambert stand out in public memory but its worth remembering that Giuliani's career as a Wall Street foe hardly began or ended there. Executives from Kidder Peabody to those at Goldman Sachs were led out of their offices in handcuffs. There's a good case to be made that Giuliani's aggressiveness retarded financial innovation for years, as many were afraid that any unorthodox financial strategies or products might be deemed criminal by the US attorney's office.

“He was very creative about wielding power.” Those of the words one law professor uses to describe Giuliani, and we can't imagine a more fitting epitaph. Except that they were written too early, and Giuliani quite obviously has no intention of vanishing from the scene any time soon. We may yet have to write more about the way Giuliani wields power.

(More on this article from Tom Kirkendall and Larry Ribstein.)

Crime Buster With Eye on the Future [New York Times]

Comments

Posted by pierre, Dec 11, 2007 11:43AM

if ron paul was US attorney for the southern district we wouldn't have had this prosecutorial misconduct aka cleaning up of wall street

Posted by , Dec 11, 2007 11:45AM

Quick is chilling with the Oracle again. And she wearing a big pearl necklace right now...

Posted by , Dec 11, 2007 11:49AM

"Ron Paul has no alarm clock, but instead wakes every morning to the
call of freedom."

Posted by Anonymous, Dec 11, 2007 12:06PM

I think anyone considering taking a job in the financial sector, and every lawyer in law school, should be required to read Daniel Fischel's excellent and terrifying "Payback" book, about the wrongful persecution of Milken and others by the likes of Guilliani. Both careers require a deep appreciation of risk, and the management of the same. Pursing such careers without understanding how vulnerable you and your clients are to the risk of prosecutorial abuse is gross negligence.

Posted by inIT4the$, Dec 11, 2007 12:19PM

And this kids is why Guli will never, ever get my vote for anything. At least Romney understands this business.

Posted by , Dec 11, 2007 12:45PM

A lot of the old timers here definitely do not like Rudy, for those reasons mentioned above.

He wanted to be the star of his own Law & Order spin off (yeah, i know); arresting people in the most spectacular fashion possible. It would be interesting to see him get arrested in the middle of a debate for a minor offense, then have the prosecutor issue only a weak apology.

Posted by , Dec 11, 2007 12:51PM

You wonder why we joke "welcome to the police state" if Ghouliani wins haha.

Note to self - hide more assets offshore if the polls lean his direction in October '08

Posted by fatbear, Dec 11, 2007 12:52PM

...the aggressive prosecutor who builds his reputation by going after Wall Street and attacks his opponents with leaks to the press. Credit there probably belongs to Rudolph Giuliani.

Hmm, I'll guess either:

a) you're too young
b) you didn't pay attention in school

'cause you should remember Tom Dewey (of "Dewey Beats Truman" fame) - not to forget a zillion Hollywood DAs going after the ritzy folk

Those who forget the past, etc, etc

Posted by slimjim, Dec 11, 2007 1:09PM

Romney likes to bounce little boys on his knee while he is wearing only his tighty whites. Hillary in 08 you jigaboos.

Posted by Matt, Dec 11, 2007 1:18PM

Anon@12:06,

I would rather add 'Den of Thieves' to the compulsory reading list. Incidentally a good part of it is built on actual testimony by Boesky, Siegel, Levine and the rest.

Yes, Milken was a rare financial genius. The case against him was also not open and shut (he was smart enough to make sure of that). A good part of his 'law-breaking' involved breaking 'laws' which were questionable and inefficient in the first place.

However, that does not erase the fact that there were a LOT of outright criminals on the street back them. They carried out blatant insider trading. Read their own testimony. I am not lover of trial lawyers and harball AGs, all the same that does not make any of the crooks that were taken out innocent.

Posted by , Dec 11, 2007 1:18PM

mark foley '08

Posted by , Dec 11, 2007 1:18PM

I can't take anyone seriously who thinks Hillary Clinton would be a good President.

Posted by sanitation man, Dec 11, 2007 1:19PM

It's a dirty street, someone has to clean it. The job never ends.

Posted by bill, Dec 11, 2007 1:27PM

"retarded financial innovation for years"

Don't worry, there has been plenty of retarded financial innovation in the last few years.

Posted by slimjim, Dec 11, 2007 1:29PM

Mark Foley and Larry Carig had one magical night of passion some time ago. Long story short the collected their man juice in a bucket and put that bucket on mount Sinai. After 40 days a hermaphrodite named Ron Paul walked down from that mountain.

Posted by wtf, Dec 11, 2007 1:30PM

I can't take anyone seriously who thinks Rudolph Giuliani would be a good President.

Posted by Anal_yst, Dec 11, 2007 1:31PM

If Hilarity wins I am for reals moving out of this country. No matter if Bill has his hand so far up her fat arse.

Posted by MT, Dec 11, 2007 1:37PM

I can't take anyone seriously who thinks either Hillary or Rudy would be a good president

Posted by Che, Dec 11, 2007 1:44PM

Abolish the Federal Reserve. Paul in '08. Viva la revolucion

Posted by Anonymous, Dec 11, 2007 1:44PM

Matt, Den of Thieves was a cartoon, and for example the testimony of government stooges like Boesky didn't add up to a hill of beans, except for those who wanted to believe the cartoons. Prosecutors can concoct anything, and often do. I'd rely on Fischel's book for the truth.

Posted by slimjim, Dec 11, 2007 1:50PM

Hillary Clinton is the only one that can protect us from the terrorists.

Posted by , Dec 11, 2007 1:56PM

Larry Craig as President and Mark Foley as VP. Jim McGreevy as Secretary as State.

Mike's with Rufi's will be free-flowing at the ceremony

Posted by , Dec 11, 2007 1:59PM

Ron Paul for supreme emperor

Posted by , Dec 11, 2007 2:00PM

wtf@1:30, at least you can thank him when you go back home and sleep peacefully without fear of getting killed, mugged or bumfuked by some crazed cokehead or gangbanger.


Oh, and I know you will quickly resort to current day NYT/WaPo propaganda to claim he did nothing at all. Thankfully, these days you can instantly pull out old new articles.

Here is BBC in 1999 -

"The former lawyer and state prosecutor has been credited with turning around a city that once seemed ungovernable, particularly in regard to crime. Overall crime rates have dropped by an astonishing 44% to their lowest in more than a generation, and the city's murder rate is down by 70%. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/388758.stm


And before you move on, here is the NEW YORK TIMES editorial from 12/30/1998

"...While crime rates have gone down nationwide from 1991 through 1997, New York's experience is exceptional....Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and Police Commissioner Howard Safir should be commended for these results. ..."!!!!!!!

Funny how now that he is running for President, all of a sudden the very same shameless thankful liberals now see no contribution from this same guy.

Posted by , Dec 11, 2007 2:08PM

His contribution is much exagerated. The sharp decline in the crime rate 1) began when Dinkins was in office 2) occured as well in every major city in America and 3) was helped immensely by the dying off of crackheads and the hiring of tons of extra cops using funds that were sent to cities by the Clinton admin. With regard to fiscal conservatism, NY was helped by the Wall Street boom of the 90s, which generated significant tax revenue. So much for Giuliani's contributions.

Posted by pierre, Dec 11, 2007 2:19PM

As compared to HRC's lifetime body of work, which pretty much consists of blowing Bill and being a size commodities trader. Besides being a senator for six years (which she got due to her husband), she hasn't done dick (figuratively speaking) her whole life.

Posted by Matt, Dec 11, 2007 2:37PM

Seriously, a search on NYT for giuliani+crime+reduction (pre-1999) gets a plethora of articles which show how the liberals hated him immensely but were thankful at the same time that he was there! Typical liberal behavior :)

Anon@2:19, dont go by the current day soundbites. NYT has archives going all the way back. Go read up. Didn't you read the NYT editorial there (I actually looked it up to believe it)!!

Posted by , Dec 11, 2007 2:48PM

Matt: Its more nuanced than you imply. The liberals did in fact like the guy at first. But then during the second term he turned into a little child. Pushing aside the police commish for taking too much credit (which he deserved) for the reduction in the crime rate. Throwing spiteful tantrums with the Brooklyn Museum for displaying art that Saint Rudy found offensive. Making his marital problems far too public.

Rudy is like a parochial school teacher. Its all about honor, loyalty, discipline. Sometimes thats a good thing, but not always.

Posted by WTF, Dec 11, 2007 2:58PM

Well we all know how much dickette rudy has done in his life.
And perhaps if Mr. law and order could have succeeded in getting his life time appointment as mayor of New York Bernie Kerik would not have his current legal troubles.

Posted by , Dec 11, 2007 3:05PM

anon@2:48,

At least he stands for something! Anyone know what Hillary stands for??

Btw, did anyone read today's WSJ ed on the AMT? ALL the Democratic senators who are presidential hopefuls skipped the vote on AMT.

So they didn't vore to repeal a tax, neither did they vote for a tax, they didn't vote to violate paygo neither did they vote for it.

Wonderful. Also public now is the fact that Nancy Pelosi and company actually were privy to and encouraged waterboarding.

Seriously, what DO the Democrats stand for?

Posted by , Dec 11, 2007 3:11PM

3:05 I think that's a problem with the US politics in general (as opposed a system like the UK, where more power resides at the party level). Using Rudy as an example, wasn't he for abortion and gay marriage and strict gun control and immigrant rights before he was to some degree against all these things. Similar charges can be directed at all the candidates. Romney is particularly guilty in this area.

Politics is an ugly business, one I'm glad to be far away from.

Posted by , Dec 11, 2007 3:11PM

Ron Paul in '08. Bitches.

Posted by wtf, Dec 11, 2007 3:22PM

It is not that i am for hilary as much as i am against rudy.
Rudy reminds me way to much of dick cheney and the last thing the usa needs is another 8 years of cheney or cheney like government.
One democratic congresswomen knew about the cia's use of "enhanced/torture techniques" with respect to captured high level al Qaeda operatives prior to it becoming common knowledge. It was NOT pelosi. The congresswoman was sworn to secrecy.

Posted by , Dec 11, 2007 3:26PM

People should at least read this NYT editorial from Dec 1999 (Yes, AFTER Giuliani's first tenure). One wonders if NYT would publish this today? I guess not, only editorials today will be ones attacking his roles in combating crime, if any. How hypocritical.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C02E1DC123FF933A05751C1A96E958260

Posted by HRC, Dec 11, 2007 4:42PM

That's why Wall Street is behind Hillary.

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